Friday, June 23, 2006

Did You Catch That?

The home schooling mom had to make sure you all knew her 6 year old could read well. Sounds like a lot of people responding to that thread are trying to justify there feelings for wanting summer break to be over with. Interesting.

43 Comments:

At 2:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She put that in there just in case someone was tempted to make a remark that wasn't appropiate for a 6 year old to read.

With all the drama in the last two days, this is the best you can do?

 
At 3:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That question is dumb. It's not healthy to have your kids attached to your hip 24/7. I'm a happier mother by having a babysitter watch my baby every Tuesday so I can get out of the house.

 
At 3:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She said that because her child will be reading the thread and she didn't want any flames. Great homeschooling if you ask me, having your kid read 2peas with you. {smirk}

 
At 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's a bitch that is always getting digs in on public education.

 
At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have read the OP and really have no clue why the OP posted this , is it to show how smart her 6 year old is? your knowledge of how different schoolds start back at different dates? Or that you are not one of THOSE public school moms or that public school moms are better at answering your childs questions than you are?

All I have to say is to your child "Sweetie, stop reading over Mommy's shoulders - it's really bad manners"

 
At 3:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wouldn't dare say this on two peas(imagine the flaming) but i have little patience with homeschooling - for one thing, what immense arrogance to decide that you can do a better job than a teacher who has been educated and trained to do the job.

 
At 4:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't all 6-year-olds read? They do where I come from. No biggie.

She was making a dig (veiled as childish inquisitiveness) at public-schooled kids and the parents who send them there. "Mommy...don't they miss them when they're gone to school?". Does her husband stay home all day too, so that he doesn't miss the kids?

Face it--the majority of home-schoolers do it because they don't want their kids to find out about evolution, or that the world is more than 6,000 years old.

 
At 4:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every homeschooled kid i ever met was weird. socially weird. problems. it's parents inability to let go.

 
At 4:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spent the day with a new friend's two home schooled teens yesterday.

They.Could.Not.Shut.Up.


I don't know if they were lonely, excited, over-validated, or JUST CAN'T SHUT UP.

 
At 4:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every homeschooled kid i ever met was weird. socially weird. problems. it's parents inability to let go.
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ITA

 
At 4:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My(step)uncle has 4 homeschooled kids and whenever they come to visit they are like baby ducks following their mama.
I'm sorry but public or private school is way better than homeschooling.
And I agree, the op was just trying to make the other moms feel bad about sending their kids to school.

 
At 4:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The OP always posts just to bash non-homeschooling moms. Reread her OP. She's totally saying in a not suble way that she's better than other moms, who send their children into the cruel world and never miss them.

 
At 4:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My 8-year-old nephew that's homeschooled can barely read. At least she's teaching him something. But she's still clearly stirring her little self-righteous pot.

 
At 4:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

lots of things on 2peas aren't appropriate for kids to read - so maybe her child shouldn't read over her shoulder

i doubt if her child said 'won't she miss them' - it sounds like a mother attributing something she'd like to say to a child

this is a vocal homeschooler, who in the past, has ruffled a couple public school sending moms' feathers (get all that?)

 
At 4:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is trying to keep the flames down by saying "Oh, and she reads very well, so I can't edit anything you say since she'll just read it over my shoulder. TIA. "

 
At 5:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's also the one who says they view and discuss "appropriate" art at the dinner table and thinks museums should be seperated into age groups, God forbid her child should see a bare breast or -gasp- a penis or something!

 
At 5:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But mommy, God never mentioned dinosaurs in the buy-bull."

 
At 5:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that she is educating children frightens me.

 
At 6:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To me her post said "Look at me, I am so wonderful because I homeschool and I don't understand how you moms can spend one nano-second without your kid hanging out of your ass."

 
At 6:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But mommy, God never mentioned dinosaurs in the buy-bull."


bwahahahahahahahahaha so true!!


Finally the blogger is picking some good topics!

 
At 6:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is the kid being allowed to read over her mom's shoulder? Doesn't the kid have anything better to read than an adult website?

 
At 6:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"what immense arrogance to decide that you can do a better job than a teacher who has been educated and trained to do the job."

no shit! ITA!

 
At 7:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

These damn snotty, self-righteous, bible thumping mothers that keep their kids socially retarded through home schooling are doing nothing more than raising wussy, whiny, self absorbed brats with no interpersonal skills who will cling to mommy's apron strings forever, or turn into serial rapists and murders.

I just want to slap each one of them sillier than shit.

So how's that for a run on rant!!

 
At 8:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know IRL about 30 families who homeschool. Between them they had around 100 children of different ages.

This is what I have observed. I live in an area with great public schools so other areas of the country may be very different.

A huge number (say around 60%) of the kids come from families where they are taught that things like TV, cartoons,sports or anything not in the bible is wrong. They girls are taught to be mothers, bear children, and be subservient to men. The boys are iME most often allowed to run wild some families are just as strong with the boys as far as rules. IME girls get the stricter rules on behavior, activities and dress.

I have also know a couple of families who homeschool because of a child medical conditon. Multiple operations, trips to other parts of the country for treatment and the transport of equipment is just too hard to work into a public school.

I've also know parents who homeschool thier disabled kids because the public school refused to protect thier child from frequent physical violence.

I know one child (age 7) who was in a wheelchair and the school thought it was "no big deal" and "how kids are" when he was knocked over and left lying on the ground sometimes for several minutes before a staff member noticed.

Then there are the freaks. They are just WEIRD they homeschool because public school makes them accountable and in many states you can homeschool with little or no guidance. I some places homeschool is so easy it's insane no testing no regulation at all.

IRL of the 30 families I have know who home schooled IMO only maybe 5 or 6 did a better job than a public school.

I do think it's an ego trip for some parents.

I also think that while some public schools are great other suck the rag. If I lived in an area where my schools were violent and crappy I would consider homeschooling.

Finally I really understand needing a break from you kids but I wonder at what point a "break" becomes avoiding them. I mean it's IMO not healthy to have them stuck in you ass 24/7. I also don't think them being in daycare 5 days a week for 12hrs plus additonal babysitters for weekends, a few nights a week and a couple of "mom and dad" getaways each year is healthy either. There is a middle ground.

 
At 8:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've known a couple of homeschool families and the commonality that i noticed is that the "schooling" doesn't rate top priority.

There's bunches of kids, somebody's always sick, gotta run errands, let's sleep in, time to clean the house, yada, yada, yada.

The actual time spent on education is very hit and miss.

 
At 9:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've known a couple of homeschool families and the commonality that i noticed is that the "schooling" doesn't rate top priority.

I saw that a great deal as well. They would often claim that they could do as much in an hour or two as a public does in 6-7hours.

 
At 10:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate homeschool parents. They are very misinformed about the real world and how it works. I would like to know what happened to these parents that made them so protective and holier than thou?
Besides, the kids get to play with OTHER homeschooled kids, once a month! OH JOY!!!!!!
(rolling eyes right outta head)

 
At 11:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how you moms can spend one nano-second without your kid hanging out of your ass.
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Most of the 2peas SAHMs are like this too. Mary Mary said she doesn't go anywhere without her kids. Molly C said she couldn't do jury duty because her baby is 6 months old and a 10 month postponement isn't long enough because she will only leave the baby with her parents.

 
At 11:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a SAHM that is more than happy to get away from kids now and then!

I don't understand how the state (or country) can say homeschooling with a non-degreed parent is okay when public school teachers have to be degreed AND certified.

 
At 11:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's one thing to not want to leave an infant or small child under the age of 2, I can see that and it makes sense to me. I prefer not to leave my children with non family members until they can talk and tell me if something happened.

Mine start preschool at 2. I prefer that they go to accredited preschools with at least 2 teachers in the room whenever possible. I don't consider myself overprotective and I do my best not to be overbearing, but at the same time it's my job to protect them. By the time they are 6 they are attending first grade full time, at school

 
At 11:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I know IRL about 30 families who homeschool. Between them they had around 100 children of different ages."

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Do you live in Colorado City?

 
At 11:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

These damn snotty, self-righteous, bible thumping mothers that keep their kids socially retarded through home schooling are doing nothing more than raising wussy, whiny, self absorbed brats with no interpersonal skills who will cling to mommy's apron strings forever, or turn into serial rapists and murders.
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word.

 
At 12:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you live in Colorado City?

11:43 PM

LOL! no. :) Most of the families I know who home school have 3 or 4 children. So all together the 30 families had around 100 children.

I got to know these people while researching homeschooling for my own kids. I was able to observe several families at home (they let me see how they schooled) and met a few times for thier monthly get togethers. I decided based on what saw homeschooling wasn't for us.

 
At 12:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

They would often claim that they could do as much in an hour or two as a public does in 6-7hours.


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yeah, i heard that as well.

***rolling eyes***

 
At 11:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The one friend I have that's actually giving her daughter a good education at home (her daughter is 3rd grade level at age 7) spends at least 4-5 hours a day on education. They're on a strict schedule like a school would be and they keep to it. My SIL on the other hand never seems to be doing anything school related, and her defense is that they're learning about the world around them. Those kids know an awful lot about animals and nature, but they can't read or do any kind of math, and they're 6 and 8.

 
At 4:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

[b] "I've known a couple of homeschool families and the commonality that i noticed is that the "schooling" doesn't rate top priority.

I saw that a great deal as well. They would often claim that they could do as much in an hour or two as a public does in 6-7hours." [/b]

I'm an Elem major and can tell you first hand that in the primary level, children have very little instruction time. Most of their time is spent in the lunchroom, at recess, at music, standing in line, playing in centers etc. It's quite easy to get a day's worth of work into a couple of hours.

Most home school Moms that I know personally follow a curriculum and on a schedule. So, it depends on how long it takes the child to grasp the concepts.
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[b] "... what immense arrogance to decide that you can do a better job than a teacher who has been educated and trained to do the job." [/b]Teaching a child how to add and subtract isn't rocket science. Also, most home school programs teach the parent how to teach the child.

 
At 8:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mostly I noticed that she has no control over her child and that she allows her child to read anything posted on a forum written by adults.

Yeah, that sure is smart.

 
At 1:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

scrapper jess was the misfit all through her own school days.

had menial, boring jobs as an adult.

so she's latched onto the homeschooling thing to validate her earlier failures.

 
At 2:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm an Elem major and can tell you first hand that in the primary level, children have very little instruction time. Most of their time is spent in the lunchroom, at recess, at music, standing in line, playing in centers etc. It's quite easy to get a day's worth of work into a couple of hours."




not in my childs school.

 
At 4:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm an Elem major and can tell you first hand that in the primary level, children have very little instruction time. Most of their time is spent in the lunchroom, at recess, at music, standing in line, playing in centers etc. It's quite easy to get a day's worth of work into a couple of hours."

not at my child's school either! It's amazing what they get done in 1st grade. It was the same way in kinder too. But then my child goes to private school, not public.

Because of my work I've been through local schools at random times...it's all about routine and structure. I saw VERY LITTLE wasted time in any of the areas you mentioned. Believe it or not, 6 and 7 year old can grasp the concept of going school within their first weeks.

 
At 2:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Socratesmom always bringing a blog post to the board.

 
At 2:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 10:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hold up now.

It personally annoys the crap out of me that homeschoolers like ScrapperJess are giving the rest of us a bad name. And thats not to say she's a rarity in the homeschooling world-she isn't.

Hey, at least her kids can read, in my homeschool group in Mississippi I have seen some very NONschooled kids-kids who know the Bible back and forth, but nothing else. Moms who tell you very seriously that they are not worried about teaching their daughter's upper level math or science, since they'll be stay at home moms. Seriously, wacked.

BUT. What about the rest? We personally homeschool to give our daughters a *better* education. And we are. DH is military. My oldest just turned 8, and we are moving in August-her 6th move since she was born. If she was school age, that would be 6 schools in 8 years. No school, no matter how good, can overcome that. And last I checked, most military bases are in crappy parts of town, with equally crappy schools.

My oldest went to second grade last year, at a public school. Granted, a crappy public school (this IS Mississippi, after all) but she did fine. Learning to raise her hand and stand in line were obviously not a problem for her, even though she'd never been in a "real" school before. She was far ahead academically. She was fine socially. Her teacher sent home notes with things like "a joy to teach!" and "what a great imagination-have her read her story she wrote to you".

I too am bothered by the "fundies" of homeschooling. I would venture to guess quite a few people in our homeschool group wouldn't let their kids play with mine if they knew we teach evolution, and *gasp* like Harry Potter. But I also don't think there is anything wrong with kids not being with kids their exact age all day every day. It is easier to learn when you don't have to worry about what clothes are cool, who is the popular girl, etc.

But yes, she *is* annoying. I highly doubt even she would really let her DD read 2Peas though-it was a dig at non-homeschooling moms.

 

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